So another record week, 337 designs in total. Thanks to all of you, we’re humbled by how many of you are here and contributing.
We’ll pick out some of the interesting entries later, but for now we’re planning wk4. This number of entries is causing some difficulties (positive difficulties ;). Firstly the really awesome designs can get hidden, its hard for everybody internally just to keep up with everything thats coming in. We would propose the following
a) A seperate category which only we can add to designs that we think totally nail the brief and are really great. We want to approve everything, and show it all together because thats the spirit of the OLP. So all designs would show by default as before, but we’d have an additional category “wk3 picks” which would show just those designs given two thumbs up by Spreadshirt.
b) We install voting. Just for a week as a trial. That way we can add highest rated, most voted etc to the sidebar and it might help filtering those designs you guys like best. The vote your score gets wont make or break your chances of getting on the shortlist, its just to help filter the designs that are popular community picks.
You can answer in the poll below:
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i think adam that your idea is really great; because, right now, i feel that there are too many logos for the few people that comment them, so it’s really tough to see the community favorites, with just those few comments…
so adding a category as you said is pretty interesting…but in my opinion, voting is not relevant, again, too many logos, not enough people commenting and voting…for the system to be fair, that’s important that you indicate your own favorites ones…because spreadshirt must have the final word on it, i guess.
see ya
i add that the system rocks, but as we go futher in weeks, we see more and more logos, so your idea seems even more appropriate right now…
Hmm.
I’d say leave it like it is.Afterall, if Spreadshirt is not prepared for the sheer number of entries, they should figure out a way *they* can handle this.Wouldn’t switching to voting mean a different way for finding the winner logo in comparison to the weeks before ?
Well i’m hopelessly confused anyway about the ways Spreadshirt wants to find its new logo.
Or in other words, how they treat their own brand.
I mean, who will decide in the end on which grounds ? If it will be a panel decision, why suggest voting - if voting will decide, why have a panel ?
And if it should become the voting route, is “design by vote” really the way to go in a rebranding of a business ?
It really surprises me how naive/sloppy the importance of branding seems to be treated here, sorry to have to say.
logodesigner, as you say i think u’re a little confused over this and perhaps have misunderstood the intent behind the voting idea.
I don’t think spreadshirt is proposing a “vote-the-winnger” system. The way I understand it is that they are simply trying to come up with working solutions to the “too-many-submissions” syndrome.
I’m sure you will agree that the submission rate has really picked up and along with it, so has the number of both good and bad designs.
I can definitely see how the high rate of submission can cause difficulties for the Spreadshirt team (who ultimately select the shortlists) to view all the logos.
So, they are coming up with ideas on how to remedy this problem and filter out the really bad designs so they can more easily decide between the good ones. And they’ve been nice enough to share those ideas and ask for our opinion and our vote.
Now, I personally am against the idea of implementing a voting system, simply because I think it’s easy to “influence” the vote. That way the system will no longer function as it was intended.
But I am certainly for the idea of having a “weekly pics” section, a sort of first-level filter done by Spreadshirt to reduce the clutter, and I voted on this post accordingly.
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Logodesigner: Man, what are you doing? You criticize everything, and by that I don’t mean that you’re analysing it and giving it feedback. You’re smashing things down, almost like you’re trying to steer the whole competition in your own direction. Making the whole competition look like a joke. What’s your intentions? Angry ’bout somethin?
Yeah I tried to make it clear that voting alone wouldn’t make a design shortlisted, maybe i should have bolded it in the text:
“The vote your score gets wont make or break your chances of getting on the shortlist, its just to help filter the designs that are popular community picks.”
As for sloppy, i’d say the contest evolves naturally based on our views and yours. We’re prepared, what we have now works, but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t be a little smoother which is why we’re exploring these ideas.
@ legofish:
Well, i think if Spreadshirt is holding a logo contest they should be prepared to handle a high rate of submissions.Simple as that.It’s not a “too many submissions” problem but a “not well enough prepared for success” problem really.
All i’m saying is that voting (even a partial one - who decides what the “really bad” designs are ?) is a new way of finding/filtering the right logo in this contest and i’m asking if this would be a wise move in regards of re-braning a company.
@ Kim - actually what i’m doing is indeed called feedback.If you read my previous comments carefully, you’ll discover that there are both positive and more critical bits.In any way i’m not trying to smashing things down, quite the opposite; i don’t think there is any comment made by me so far that doesn’t include explanations and reasons for my respective thinking.
logodesigner/legofish - I know your concerns since we’ve had a voting and that discussion in the first OLP, too. people might misunderstand that we don’t pick the winner by the pure number and average of the votes. So we didn’t want to have a voting at the beginning of olp1.6 for this reason you mentioned, but we hoped the participants get it if we add it *now* - because of course it also helps us to review what the community says, ie. compare it like at lafraise … (of course we take into account that some people promote their designs, but hey, this is how it works anyway)
So be sure that if we implement a voting we want to add like you said another “filter” for the (best) designs - just to have an additional view like the “latest comments”, or the tags, or the categories, and also just for one simple reason more: to promote more of your great designs!
Sure we can pick a winner without voting, we even could without showing the entries … but hey, this is OUR project .. you are doing this TOGETHER with us, right? (and we make it this way because we do take care of our brand actually ;)
And of course we can and should also pick some of the designs that the spreadpeople like and discuss them, but in my opinion we can do this here, in the main blog … so I’m still pro-voting and anti-A/B listing even if some of you impress me by the pure number of daily entered designs.